Fit is very nice. If you like them on the looser size I would go up a size.
These pants are perfect for just about everything. I now have 3 pairs of the black I just rotate through because they are great for working out, having a swim or surf, or just cruising around on the bike in. Lightweight, soft, the liner keeps your gear in place, and quick dry.
Arvo shorts? More like all day shorts. These arvo shorts with the liner could be worn all day every day. They are now my go-to running and gym shorts. The liner is the clincher for me, I haven't experienced any chafe to date (no long runs in Spring humidity yet) and they do not 'cling' when saturated. The pockets are meshed and are handy for car keys and the phone. A small rear pouch would be great for a key or a gel, but they're not technically a running short. I'm looking forward to warmer water and testing them as a board short!
4 Stars? Don't rest on your laurels Malo!